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I have a private Facebook group for moms of LGBT kids. We often share things we see online that are discriminatory or harmful to our LGBT kids. This morning one of the moms in the group shared a post that Sandi Queen, owner of Queen Homeschool Supplies Inc., shared on her company Facebook page. The post is public and on a public page.

I ended up posting about it on my own Facebook page and Sandi Queen blocked me from the post which made my rant about her post disappear. Fortunately a friend of mine had copied and saved it.

Initially, I was hoping that my rant would bring Sandi Queen to her senses and cause her to delete her post. Sadly that wasn’t the case. She didn’t delete it – instead she blocked me from her “Queen Homeschool Supplies Inc.” page.

The post is still there and there are more than 1,800 moms in my private Facebook group who can still see it.

She can run but she cannot hide.

So … I thought I would share the whole thing here with you because I would love to see many of you sharing her post and letting her know what you think about it.

You can search for “Queen Homeschool Supplies Inc” Facebook page and share the public post that Sandi Queen (the owner of Queen Homeschool Supplies) has shared on her public page with 1,000s of people. In fact, I think you can get to the Facebook page from a link on the Queen Homeschool Supplies Inc site.

Let’s keep Sandi busy blocking people who are not offended by the mere existence of LGBT people and who have a higher standard than “Not Hating”.

Let the world know that there are a lot of decent people out here – many who are Christians – who are not offended by a company recognizing that decent LGBT people exist and that decent same sex couples exist and are living decent lives.

Here is the “warning” Sandi Queen posted about Khan Academy:

It’s very rare that I would ever call out a competitor on this page – in fact, I don’t recall ever having done so before. I’ve never looked at Khan Academy and don’t even know what sorts of resources they offer, as I use the books I write for my kids, which are the ones we publish. But I saw this in a homeschool group that I’m in and felt it was important to warn other Christian homeschoolers, as I know I’ve seen people mention this program here. (Here is the link about Khan Academy that she shared) 

And here is what I posted on my own Facebook page (which included Sandi’s post and what disappeared when Sandi blocked me from her company page).

This post by Sandi Queen and so many of the comments it garnered are very upsetting to me.

There are many Christians who do not agree with Sandi and if you study original language and historical context you will see that the bible does not condemn a loving, monogamous same sex relationship anymore than it condemns a loving, monogamous, opposite sex relationship.

It’s ridiculous to think that recognizing same sex marriage exists is somehow going to harm a child. AND I am sick of Christians who say they don’t hate LGBT people but call for a boycott anytime a company does anything to indicate that decent LGBT people exist or that there are any decent same sex couples who might love each other well and be living good lives and have a family and are good parents. Maybe you can argue that is not hate – but is “not hating” really the bar you want to set??? Is “not hating” good enough for you??? When someone goes to the trouble to talk about being a Christian I would think their bar would be higher than that.

My gay son is in a committed relationship – he is engaged to get married – he is a good person – he lives a good life – he has a job and does good work – he makes the people he works for and his friends and his family proud of him – proud to know him – proud to have him in our life. He isn’t living some kind of terrible life – he isn’t doing a bunch of immoral things – he isn’t causing harm to anyone because of the person he loves and plans to marry. He exists!! He deserves to be acknowledged and represented. He deserves to have equal rights and to be protected against discrimination and oppression. He is a human being and the kind of message that Sandi is putting out into a community of 1,000s of people strips away my son’s human dignity and I’m sick of it!!!

SO STOP IT PEOPLE!!!

Khan Academy is not doing anything wrong by using a same sex couple as an example in an imagined scenario.

If you think it is wrong to be in a same sex marriage then don’t marry someone of the same sex. But stop trying to erase LGBT people from existence and stop spreading your toxic and damaging beliefs around to others.

LGBT people do exist and same sex couples do exist and you being offended by their existence is not a loving position to take.

SO STOP IT!!

If you don’t want to buy from Khan then that is fine but please stop spreading your hate – just keep it to yourself.

There may be some LGBT youth reading the crap you are putting out there and it might be what pushes them over the edge to stop being a Christian or to start hating themselves or to even harm themselves.

SO STOP IT!!

You are doing harm and it is wrong!!

And here are the comments that were made. There are a few that call Sandi out and I am grateful to them. There was one woman who even stated that she is a lesbian and Sandi replied “we are all sinners” – which made me sick and angry and broken hearted all at the same time. Unfortunately most of the comments were from homeschooling moms who were “so grateful” that Sandi had warned them about Khan.

I’ll let you read the comments for yourself:

Beth Dickinson Chretien:

Thank you for sharing. That’s very disappointing. We have used them for extra help with math.

Sandi Queen:

You’re welcome.

Charlotte Clevelle:

Yes…truth needs to be told..thank you…going to share…

Sara Ellison Vogltanz:

This is so sad! It really had been a great resource!

Sandi Queen:

Please let’s not use this post as a jump off point to talk about other math products.

Charla Shortt Helton:

Oh my goodness!! Thank you so much for sharing!!

Joy Brusetti:

I would think if you’ve raised your children correctly that it wouldn’t matter. Obviously with younger children this may be an issue but if you’re having the right conversations with your older children they will know what is wrong and what is right and will understand that it’s just how the sinful world is now. Not to excuse anything, but to prepare them for what they will face in the real world, especially if they go to a secular college! Just saying.

Sandi Queen:

While I would agree with that in part, I also see how exposure to ungodly teachings, particularly in a child’s formative years, can desensitize him to worldly philosophies.

Joy Brusetti:

I definitely understand that. With my teens, the things going on in the world around them and what the Bible says about them are a constant conversation. They point out things that even I may overlook sometimes.

MeriBeth Glenn:

It’s not about raising your kids right. It’s about supporting the company that is supposed to be a good resource. Obviously it’s not a good resource for those of us seeking a specific type of curriculum….. if it’s not Biblical.

Rachel Barrett:

When Christian teenagers tell their parents that they are attracted to the same sex, and have been since middle school, it’s not just about how they are raised. Sadly, I really think there are huge issues with hormonal problems in our food and environment that are wreaking havoc.

AmandaJo Ross Haugen:

Thank you for sharing.

MeriBeth Glenn:

Thank you for sharing

Jay N Michele Watson:

This was the one program my daughter could understand for math. She is already struggling and I felt so happy I found something she could get. Sigh. I don’t plan to stop it. She is a teen so hoping she and I can work through this

Kimberley Bee:

We stopped using Khan only because of the fact that they are aligned with Common Core. It made me sad because my girls so enjoyed practicing skills for math on it.

Crystal Gilliam:

We used to use Khan and found it to be helpful. I’m saddened that this is being shoved down our throats.

Sarah Marostica:

Wow. Khan Academy is a wonderful resource. Sad to see so much hatred. Because of a question about women having lunch with their wives?!? Happens every day guys, get used to it. LOVE WINS

Sandi Queen:

All sorts of things happen every day, but that doesn’t mean I want to make them part of my young child’s educational curriculum if they are not something our family agrees with. In our house, Jesus Christ wins. If our curriculum choices are inline with what we believe He would be pleased with, I am happy to expose them to my children’s impressionable minds and hearts. If not, then I’m not. I know not everyone agrees with this sentiment, but many here do. For them, I felt it was important to share. 🙂

Kimberley Bee:

No hatred here, just don’t agree how CC presents and teaches their math. At first Khan said they were not going to do that but alas, they buckled under pressure.

Debra Jackson Gibson:

They did not just buckle they accepted money from The Gates Foundation. Bill Gates has his hands deep into the Common Core agenda and masks it as helping to educate our children. It is no more than indoctrination and data mining. As for me and my House we will serve AND trust the Lord. Thank you Sandi Queen for standing firm!!!!

Francinia Flores:

I’m tired of people using love wins to justify sinful behaviors. As a Catholic I believe that love did win. And it won on a Good Friday for the salvation of all. And I’m not judging but if your ok with your children being exposed to that then fine but I’m not. So thank you Sandi for the heads up on the curriculum!

Beth Piontek:

Love does win, however, God’s truth as He states in the Bible is the definition of true love. Truth without grace isn’t love and grace without truth isn’t love. There must be a balance and the Lord clearly states all throughout Scripture that homosexuality is a sin. I thank you, Sandi, for informing us because my daughter has been practicing on there lately. Certainly not any longer.

Ronda Wilson Hinzman:

Thanks for the heads up. I was considering using some of their subjects this coming school year.

Danielle Hull:

Dana Hanley I think you mentioned them?

Marilyn Fowler Brownjohn:

I’m Christian and I have no issue with it. Children know their sexual orientation at a young age. You can’t change orientation. Being gay is a normal variation on the human spectrum.

And Christ never uttered one word about being gay. He said”love thy neighbour”, not “love only the people you agree with who think like you”.

Ken Crystal Hatlewick:

I understand where you are coming from Marilyn Fowler Brownjohn, I really do. As a parent I appreciate knowing what is in the curriculum that my children are being taught. I think as homeschool parents we are blessed to be able to get to see things like this. Thank you Sandi Queen for keeping us informed on things like this. Blessings to you all.

Sandi Queen:

Thank you, Marilyn, but I respectfully disagree. When I read Romans 1:24 and onward, I see that God’s Word says that this behavior is unnatural and vile. I know some who would disagree, and even some people I love in my extended family would disagree. That’s OK. I’m not out to argue this point; I just wanted to warn those who, like myself, would want to be forewarned about something they believe to be unbiblical in their children’s curriculum.

Beth Dickinson Chretien:

Just because you think something is wrong according to the Bible or don’t agree with somebody does NOT mean that you hate the person. God does command us to love our neighbor as ourselves, that in no way means that we can’t disagree with them.

Mirka Luhrs:

Agree

Melissa Anne Tarpley:

It says it – word for word that men having sexual relations with other men and women having sexual relations with other women is a sin and people will not go to heaven unless they repent and change their ways. If God said it then it is so.

Marilyn Fowler Brownjohn:

The old testament. Christ said he came to fulfill the Old Testament and create a New Testament. And I said Christ very specifically, as that is who Christians purport to follow. Show me where Christ said one word about it. Not other people. Christ.

Marilyn Fowler Brownjohn:

And Christ didn’t write Romans. A man did.

Jennifer Fox:

I am thrilled that Khan is being inclusive. They are promoting tolerance, acceptance, the real world.

Mirka Luhrs:

Agree

Melissa Anne Tarpley:

Being sinful and disobeying God is sinful, not being accepting and tolerated, and things in the real world is what is wrong with the world.

Jennifer Fox :

So, I guess all the people that won’t use Khan now, also don’t allow their kids to participate in and / or watch ballet/ ice skating/ listen to music, classical and otherwise because these are all areas that have a strong gay presence.
If you participate in any of these, you better stop now.

Brandy Conlin:

I agree Jennifer. This actually makes me support Khan even more now, I have an lgtb teen, and will always goes for the product/company that supports inclusion rather than the one that spreads intolerance.

Sandie Griffitts:

Something I’ve contemplated for a while. Everyone seems to think that to love as Jesus loved means we need to support the sin choices of others.
Make no mistake, Jesus did not condone sin. When sinners encountered the love of Jesus when he was here in the form of flesh, their lives were forever changed. He loved them so much he did not leave them in their sin, but led them out of darkness and into light.
That is how to love as Jesus loved.

Kathy Layden:

Is a person born hard of hearing a sinner too? I can tell you with every single inch of my body that I was born this way and I used to love Jesus and served with all I was, until Christians broke my heart. I can’t change, trust me when I say, I tried with all of my night for 38 years.

Sandie Griffitts:

I think you know the answer to that. And I know you are trying to imply gender identity issues are something a person is born with. And I don’t think we need to discuss that.

Having your heart broken by Christians is not the same as having it broken by Christ. When we allow the hurt caused by people to turn our hearts against God, the question is who were we serving to begin with. And I say that as someone who has been very hurt by my brothers and sisters in Christ.

Kathy Layden:

I am a lesbian. I can’t change that. I wish it was simple. I tried for 38 yrs.

Steph Hunt:

Kathy, are you familiar with Justin Lee and the Gay Christian network? He is a gay Christian and minister, with your background you may appreciate what he has to say. I am a straight Christian but I strongly feel that most Christians have lost sight of love thy neighbor. There is too much scorn and turning away from people and not enough love. I have Justin in my friends list if you are interested, his testimony is touching and they are welcoming of everyone as it should be.

Kristyn Baker:

Thanks so much for sharing! We haven’t used Khan, but I’ve always heard of it as an option and considered it.

Mirka Luhrs:

I like Khan, my kids too. I am quite disappointed with this article and Sandi. We are all the same and we should respect each other.
Jesus would want us to be like him.

Jennifer Fox:

Yes, let’s not keep the intolerance going. I too am disappointed in the article. It’s just disheartening.

Charlotte Clevelle:

She has not shown any disrespect….we just do not choose to follow or use their products or …agree with their agenda…..and we have the right to say how we feel as long as we do it with respect… Jesus walked in love and purity….He was very adamant when He spoke of the Garden when God created one man and one woman….no need to continue comment…you spoke yr opinion and we have ours…. We have a right to speak as well….

Joy Tony Lucas:

I kind of had to skim through the article… What was it just that one problem they’re pointing out?

Jennifer Fox

Yes, that’s it.

Joy Tony Lucas:

I just mean it’s a lot of drama over one question. .. had they considered that it might just be a typo. Because that NEVER happens. …

Terry West Suchodolski:

Thank you Sandi Queen for warning us!!

Brenda Martin:

My children finished last May, in college now. Having to deal with this now.

Stacey Melton:

Thank you for sharing Sandi Queen! Protection is LOVE.

Joe Beth Hackett:

So is there a good alternative?? My kids love watching a video sometimes if they aren’t understanding me…

Sandi Queen:

No idea, but we are not inviting comments referring people to other curriculums.

Joe Beth Hackett:

Sorry I don’t use it as a curriculum but as a help so I didn’t see it that way. Feel free to delete if you need to.

Siobhan Holcombe:

Sandi Queen, and this is just another reason why I will continue to support your business. You stand up for the faith and you stand on solid ground. Thank you for being a voice. You will always have our business. 🙂

Belinda Blair:

Thank you Sandi

Kathy Layden:

I haven’t read the article but I used a lot of Sandi’s homeschooling material while raising my children. It also completely breaks my heart to see people so against something you can not change. I loved serving Christ for so long until I couldn’t stop what or who I was. If I was born black, it would be the same thing. Being gay is not a sin, it’s not different that being born hard of hearing or blind. Or black. It is a choice to be hurtful 😢

Belinda Blair:

Being born black is not a sin, but according to God’s Word homosexuality is. However, we are to never hate or be cruel to anyone. As believers in Christ we must walk in truth…. God’s Word is truth. I don’t always understand God’s ways, but I know my thoughts are not His thoughts, and His ways are not my ways. He knows what is good for me, therefore I will trust in Him. May we walk in the light as he is in the light.

Sandi Queen:

PLEASE DO NOT SHARE THIS POST outside of this group. If you want to share, please just click on the link and share from there. I am getting trolls who are not Christians who have seen shared posts sending me nasty messages because I don’t believe LGBT people are equal to me, because I am a hater, etc. That’s just not true, and that’s not why I posted this at all. As a Christian homeschool parent myself, I posted this to let others who may be concerned about this know about it. If that’s not you, that’s fine. That doesn’t make you a hater because you believe differently any more than it makes me a hater because I want to warn others about this. We publish Christian curriculum and Bible studies. Obviously, we are going to stand for the Bible and against that which the Bible speaks against. Thank you for understanding.

Kathy Layden:

I am a gay woman, I will not share because that’s unfair. I am sorry anyone is bashing you. It truly is sad for me that I am seen as a sinner but I have always enjoyed your products. I hope in time you can meet people and see we are just as normal as everyone else.

Sandi Queen:

We are all sinners, Kathy Layden. That’s what Christ died for.

Stacey Melton:

We are all sinners

MeriBeth Glenn:

Love the sinner not the sin.

Melissa René Everet:

I don’t see you as a sinner, Kathy Layden. My heart is broken for those here who are twisting God’s perfect love and attempting to turn it against you. Forgive them, they know not what they do. Truly.

MeriBeth Glenn:

Uhm…. we are all sinners. You sin. I sin. She sins. James 2:10 sin is sin. It doesn’t matter what we think, if God says it’s sin, it’s sin. And sin is what Christ died for…. so it doesn’t matter what is twisted or turned against anyone— if you believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that Jesus Christ is the son of God then you will be saved. Sin is sin and saved is saved. It’s not hard.

Stacey Melton:

Kathy Layden are you saved?

Melissa René Everet:

Stacey Melton are you judging?

Stacey Melton:

Judging what? I’m asking a question? Those of you that disagree will always try to twist things and say it’s hate or judging, when it’s actually the opposite. I was asking bc her first comment about serving Jesus. I was NOT judging, and it’s really sad that people like you think it is. And btw I can judge things, it is my right.I judge truth from lies and deceit about everyday.

Lori Schuetz:


My son uses it daily and I have used it for my own schooling…I have not once seen what this article refers to. Thank you for sharing. We have used some of their stuff. Bit not any more. I wasn’t aware that they are now common core aligned either.Cheryl Smith Tredway:Thank you for sharing this. I do not plan on using this vendor either because of their embrace of CCS long ago.Jackie Betancourt:

Oh my word, thank you for sharing this, Sandi Queen. 😔

Josh Standifird:

We quit using this resource when I heard blasphemy in one of the videos.

Lesa Fillingim:

Being that Bill Gates is a founder…. not interested.

Judy Keplinger:

King James Version
Romans 16: 17 & 18
17 Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offenses contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
18 For they that are such serve not our Lord JESUS Christ, but their own belly; and by their good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

Nitza Ravé:

I have NEVER liked Khan Academy.

Brandy Conlin:

And as a mother of an LGTB teen whom I love and support very much I am very disheartened to see hate and intolerance spread on this page under the false guise of religion and “warning”. I have purchased Queen homeschool curriculum to use with my kids but it is now tossed out and I will never spend another cent on this company. Khan on the otherhand will be used even more in my home. I will always support and encourage a program that supports inclusion.

Ana Daniela Myer:

I am with you. So much hate and intolerance from “Christians” . I will never understand that. Keep hiding behind “scripture”. This whole thread is so sad.

Ronda Wilson Hinzman:

Eph 6:10-17, Sandi Queen

Dana O’Quinn Adams:

I haven’t ever promoted Khan Academy. Never will.

Sara Lv:

I’ve always been leery of it bc it’s funded by Gates…

Sandie Griffitts:

So, when we agree with scripture, that what God calls sin is sin, that makes us hateful. God makes it pretty clear that those who continue in sin don’t have a relationship with him, but somehow in the eyes of some folks, it is “loving” to “tolerate” and “support” people who commit certain sins, even tho it means their sin will keep them from a relation with God. That isn’t loving.

Brandy Conlin:

And clearly you are the type of person who’s child would be fearful of coming out to. Many teens that know the acceptance that occurs in my home and how easy it was for my daughter to come out have done so with me. They have told me they fear their parents will stop loving them, will never support them etc. A few have struggled with the idea of suicide, feeling they are better off killing themselves than telling their own parents that they are lgtb. It is closed minded, intolerant parents that say drivel like you have that have kids terrified to be honest with their own families. When the day of judgement comes all of those who think they have the right to judge here on earth are in for a rude awakening. I believe fully that He won’t find ya’ll as righteous as you all think you are.

Sandie Griffitts:

You sound very confident of what a horrible, self righteous person I must be. Interestingly, one of my daughters had a friend when she was in beauty school who is openly bisexual. He always referred to me as his mom. He even invited me to his graduation.

Ana Daniela Myer:

Who are you to judge another’s person relationship with God? Are you God? I see a lot of folks here throwing stones so even IF it was a sin….. I am sure none of you are without it. Isn’t that why Jesus died for you?

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